Tuesday, April 14, 2009

The Good, the Bad, the Action Movie

Two things.

First, let me say that I am a fan of Star Trek: The Original Series. After some reluctance, I slowly grew to also enjoy the Next Generation as well, although I would routinely root for them killing off either Ryker or Wesley Crusher. I also enjoyed the movies, Wrath of Khan being the best of course, and the one with the Borg being the second best. I wanted to say all this because I am a fan.

So it is no surprise that I am very excited and looking forward to the new movie, which shows the early years of the crew, coming out on May 8Th. However, I have some concern.

Mostly the concern centers around facts introduced in the movie Wrath of Khan concerning Kirk's years at the Star Fleet Academy. Specifically, If they don't include the telling of Kirk's encounter with the Kobayashi Maru scenario during those early years, then I might just have to get up and walk out of the theater. This, as a fan, would be a grave injustice to the series and the movies that have proceeded and established this franchise. It would be like writing a Star Wars movie without any reference to Darth Vader or the Skywalker family.

Second, I'm also a fan of the X-Men comic, not much of a fan of the second and third X-Men movies, but they didn't completely suck, nor did they ruin the franchise. I was actually glad to see Cyclops get exploded, as it were, by Jean Grey. But, in the first movie, Cyclops clearly has never met Wolverine before he comes to the mansion and yet, he appears in the trailer for the Origins movie.

Obviously, it would make sense that Wolverine doesn't remember him, because of the amnesia, but how could Scott not know him? Yes, the trailer shows a young, possibly teenage Scott Summers and the trailer might be cut to hype the movie and the two might not even meet up, who knows. This doesn't concern me as much as the Star Trek issue, meaning, I'll not walk out, but as Desi use to say "Lucy, you got some explaining to do."

Told you I was an X-Men fan, scary ain't it?

But, you know me, I might just be over thinking both scenarios. What do you think?


  1. I think that Ewok movie was the BEST Star Wars movie and it never included anything about SkyWalkers. I never once thought about walking out of my living room when I was a 7-year-old watching it.

  2. You are such a nut! Course there was Skywalkers...Luke fought Darth Vader in that movie....you poor 7yr old. lol

  3. I think he means the spin off movie, "Ewoks The Battle for Endor".

  4. This new Star Trek movie is not exploring the early years of Kirk and crew as you know them.

    This is set in an alternate universe. I won't say more than that.

  5. Alternate Universe or NO, to not include the Kobayashi Maru would be criminal. I understand that Captain Pike makes an appearance in the Movie...so they are taking from the Lore of the show, so there should be no excuse not to use the "No Win" scenario.

  6. In this universe, those things might not have happened at all. This is Star Trek, after all. If there can be alternate time-lines where Data is made of wood, or where Spock is "evil", there can be alternate time-lines where Kirk did not beat the Kobayashi Maru. There are even books that detail how Scotty won the Kobayashi Maru. Kinda steals some of Kirk's thunder there.

    All anyone can do is go see it and either like it or not. They aren't counting on TOS fans to line their pockets with cash like they used to.

  7. I just don't get it. Why do a alternate universe in the first place? What is wrong with using the original lore and build a movie around that? We've not seen Kirk and Crew during the early years, so why not take what is there....push the boundries a bit and keep what Fans love?

    And if they aren't going after the TOS fan base, then what fan base are they going after? Not the Next Gen people? They've complete alienated them with the last couple of craptastic movies.

  8. Same goes for Marvel alternate universes. Looks like in the Origins for Wolverine they are going by the Ultimate Marvel Universe. This is where Wolverine is "created" as Weapon X and works for Magneto in the beginning. Wolvie infiltrates the school and attempts to assassinate Xavier. This could explain why we see Cyclops in the trailer. Later, Wolverine betrays Magneto and joins the X-Men. Just a hunch.

  9. A recent TV spot showed a very Young Storm in the movie as well. So, it appears they aren't using the lore from recent movies at all.

    At least the Potter movie looks good.

  10. I have to say that as much as I like Star Trek, the damage done by Paramount and Rick Berman is pretty unfixable. People want new stuff and the industry wants a name that will bring in viewers. The new stuff is an alternate time line and the name is "Star Trek".

    The days of Star Trek actually being a progressive force for real Science Fiction are long gone. :( It's all guns and stuff blowed up!

  11. I'm guessing Oak doesn't like change.